Jay Z rarely gives interviews, but when he does, you know he’ll often deliver the odd nugget of enlightenment at some point during the chat. However in his most-recent interview with the NY Times, Jigga’s laid long-standing rumours of a collaborative album with Beyonce to rest.

Speaking of the project (and also confirming its intentions at the same time), Jay said “We were using our art almost like a therapy session. And we started making music together.” He then adds “And then the music she was making at that time [Beyonce’s surprise album LEMONADE] was further along. So her album came out as opposed to the joint album that we were working on. Um, we still have a lot of that music. And this is what it became. There was never a point where it was like, ‘I’m making this album.’ I was right there the entire time.“.

Elsewhere in the interview, the Brooklyn rapper also seems to allude of a hatchet-burial with Kanye West. “I [talked to] Kanye the other day, just to tell him, like, he’s my brother. I love Kanye. I do. It’s a complicated relationship with us,… [W]e’re both entertainers. It’s always been like a little underlying competition with your big brother.”

Read the full story in the NY Times, here.